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Saducismus Triumphatus · 1681 · Section 4 of 31

Dr Henry More’s letter, with the postscript, to Mr J. G., part 3 of 3

O no, says Mr. Webster, these are onely [non-Latin script] [Chacamim] Wise men, and great Naturalists, who all what they did, they did [non-Latin script], by their bright glittering Laminae, for so [non-Latin script] forsooth must signifie. But what necessity thereof that [non-Latin script] should signifie Lamina? there is onely the pretence of that one place, Gen. 3. 24. [non-Latin script], where it is [non-Latin script] onely that signifies the Lamina, and that of a long form, scarce usual in those magical Laminae with Signatures celestial upon them, which J. Webster would be at; but [non-Latin script] signifies meerly Flamma; so that [non-Latin script] by this account must signifie by their slames, if it be from [non-Latin script] ardere, flammare: And therefore Buxtorfius judiciously places the word under [non-Latin script] abscondit, obvolvit, reading not [non-Latin script] but [non-Latin script], which is as much as to say, occult is suis rationibus Magicis, which is briefly rendred in English, by their Enchantments; which agrees marvellously well with [non-Latin script] [Mecassephim,] which is as much as Praestigiatores Magici, or such as do strange wonderous things in an hidden way by the help of evil Spirits. But that the AEgyptian Magicians should do those things that are there recorded of them in Exodus, by vertue of any Lamels or Plates of metal with certain Sculptures or Figures under such or such a Cons[…]ellation, is a thing so sottish and foolish, that no man that is not himself bewitched by some old Hag or Hobgoblin, can ever take Sanctuary here to save himself or his old Dames from being in a capacity, from this History in Exodus, of being accounted Witches. For if there may be He-witches, that is, Magicians, such as these of AEgypt were, I leave J. Webster to scratch his head to find out any reason why there may not be She-witches also.

And indeed that of the Witch of Endor, to pass at length to the eighth Chapter, is as plain a proof thereof as can be desired by any man whose mind is not blinded with prejudices. But here J. Webster, not impertinently, I confess, for the general, (abating him the many tedious particular impertinencies that he has clogged his Discourse with) betakes himself to these two ways, to shew there was nothing of a Witch in all that whole Narration. First, by pretending that all the transaction on the woman of Endor's part was nothing but collusion and a Cheat, Saul not being in the same Room with her, or at least seeing nothing if he was. And then in the next place, That Samuel that is said to appear, could neither be Samuel appearing in his Body out of the Grave, nor in his Soul; nor that it was a Devil that appeared: and therefore it must be some colluding Knave suborned by the Witch. For the discovering the weakness of his former Allegation, we need but to appeal to the Text, which is this, 1 Sam. 28. v. 8.

And Saul said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me up whom I shall name unto thee, [non-Latin script]; that is, do the office of a Divineress or a Wise woman, I pray thee, unto me, [non-Latin script] [Beobh] by vertue of the familiar Spirit, whose assistance thou hast, not by vertue of the Bottle, as Mr. Webster would have it. Does he think that Damsel in the Acts which is said to have had [non-Latin script], that is, to have had [non-Latin script] [Obh] carried an Aquavitae-bottle about with her, hung at her Girdle, whereby she might divine and mutter, chirp, or peep out of it, as a Chicken out of an Egg-shell, or put her Neb into it to cry like a Bittern, or take a dram of the Bottle to make her wits more quick and divinatory? Who but one that had taken too many drams of the Bottle could ever fall into such a fond conceit? Wherefore [non-Latin script] [Obh] in this place does not, as indeed no where else, signifie an oracular Bottle or [non-Latin script], into which Saul might desire the woman of Endor to retire into, and himself expect answers in the next Room; but signifies that familiar Spirit by vertue of whose assistance she was conceived to perform all those wondrous offices of a Wise woman. But we proceed to verse 11.

Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel. Surely as yet Saul and the woman are in the same Room; and being the woman askt, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? and he answering, Bring up unto me Samuel, it implies that Samuel was so to be brought up that Saul might see him, and not the Witch onely. But we go on, Verse 12.

And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. Though the woman might have some suspicions before that it was Saul, yet she now seeing Samuel did appear, and in another kind of way than her Spirits used to do, and in another hue, as it is most likely so holy a Soul did, she presently cried out with a loud voice, (not muttered, chirpt, and peept as a Chicken coming out of the Shell) that now she was sure it was Saul: For she was not such a Fool as to think her Art could call up real Samuel, but that the presence of Saul was the cause thereof: And Josephus writes expresly, [non-Latin script]; i. e. The woman seeing a grave God like man, is startled at it, and thus astonished at the Vision, turned her self to the King, and said, Art not thou King Saul? Verse 13.

And the King said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw Gods ascending out of the Earth. The King here assures the woman, that though he was Saul, yet no hurt should come to her, and therefore bids her not be afraid: But she turning her face to Saul, as she spake to him, and he to her, and so her sight being off from the object, Saul asked her, What sawest thou? and she in like manner answered, I saw Gods, &c. For Gods I suppose any free Translator in Greek, Latine and English would say, [Greek], Genios, Spirits. And [Greek] signifies Angels as well as Gods; and it is likely these Wise women take the Spirits they converse with to be good Angels, as Anne Bodenham the Witch told a worthy and Learned Friend of mine, That these Spirits, such as she had, were good Spirits, and would do a man all good offices all the days of his life; and it is likely this woman of Endor had the same opinion of hers, and therefore we need not wonder that she calls them [non-Latin script] [Elohim] especially Samuel appearing among them, to say nothing of the presence of Saul. And that more than one Spirit appears at a time, there are repeated examples in Anne Bodenham's Magical Evocations of them, whose History, I must confess, I take to be very true.

The case stands therefore thus: The Woman and Saul being in the same Room, she turning her face from Saul, mutters to her self some Magical form of evocation of Spirits; whereupon they beginning to appear and rise up, seemingly out of the Earth, upon the sight of Samuels Countenance, she cried out to Saul, and turning her face towards him spoke to him. Now that Saul hitherto saw nothing, though in the same Room, might be either because the body of the woman was interposed betwixt his eyes and them; or the Vehicles of those Spirits were not yet attempered to that conspissation that they would strike the eyes of Saul, though they did of the Witch. And that some may see an Object others not seeing it, you have an instance in the Child upon Walker's Shoulders appearing to Mr. Fairhair, and, it may be, to the Judge, but invisible to the rest of the Court; and many such examples there are: But I proceed to Verse 14.

And he said unto her, What form is he of? and she said, An old man cometh up, and is covered with a mantle. He asks here in the Singular number, because his mind was onely sixt on Samuel. And the womans answer is exactly according to what the Spirit appeared to her, when her eye was upon it, viz. [non-Latin script] An old man coming up; for he was but coming up when she looked upon him, and accordingly describes him: For [non-Latin script] there is a Participle of the present Tense, and the woman describes Samuel from his Age, Habit, and motion he was in, while her eye was upon him. So that the genuine sense and Grammatical in this answer to, What form is he of? is this, an old man coming up, and the same covered with a mantle, this is his form and condition I saw him in. Wherefore Saul being so much concerned herein, either the woman or he changing their postures or standings, or Samuel by this having sufficiently conspissated his Vehicle and fitted it to Saul's sight also, it follows in the Text, And Saul perceived it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground and bowed himself.

O the impudent profaneness and sottishness of perverse shufflers and whifflers, that upon the hearing of this passage can have the face to deny that Saul saw any thing, and merely because the word [perceived] is used, and not [saw;] when the word [perceived] plainly implies that he saw Samuel, and something more, namely, that by his former familiar converse with him, he was assured it was he. So exquisitely did he appear and overcomingly to his senses, that he could not but acknowledge (for so the Hebrew word [Hebrew] signifies) that it was he, or else why did he stoop with his Face to the very Ground to do him honour?

No no, says J. Webster, he saw nothing himself, but stood waiting like a drowned Puppet (see of what a base rude spirit this Squire of Hags is, to use such language of a Prince in his distress) in another Room, to hear what would be the issue: for all that he understood was from her cunning and lying relations. That this Gallant of Witches should dare to abuse a Prince thus, and feign him as much foolisher and sottisher in his Intellectuals as he was taller in Stature than the rest of the people even by head and shoulders, and merely, forsooth, to secure his old Wives from being so much as in a capacity of ever being suspected for Witches, is a thing extreamly coarse, and intolerably sordid. And indeed upon the consideration of Saul's being said to bow himself to Samuel, (which plainly implies that there was there a Samuel that was the object of his sight and of the reverence he made) his own heart misgives him in this mad adventure. And he shifts o[…]f from thence to a conceit that it was a confederate Knave that the woman of Endor turned out into the room where Saul was, to act the part of Samuel, having first put on him her own short Cloak, which she used with her maund under her arm to ride to Fairs or Markets in. To this Country-slouch in the womans Mantle, must King Saul, stooping with his face to the very ground, make his profound obeysance. What, was a Market-womans Cloak and Samuel's Mantle, which Josephus calls [non-Latin script], a Sacerdotal habit, so like one another? Or if not, how came this woman, being so surprized o[…] a suddain, to provide her self of such a Sa[…]rdotal habit to cloak her consederate Kna[…] i[…] Was Saul as well a blind as a drowned Puppet, that he could not discern so gross and bold an Imposture as this? Was it possible that he should not perceive that it was not Samuel when they came to confer together, as they did? How could that confederate Knave change his own Face into the same figure, look, and mien that Samuel had, which was exactly known to Saul? How could he imitate his Voice thus of a suddain, and they discoursed a very considerable time together?

Besides, Knaves do not use to speak what things are true, but what things are pleasing And moreover, this woman of Endor, though a Pythoness, yet she was of a very good nature and benign, which Josephus takes notice of, and extols her mightily for it, and therefore she could take no delight to lay further weight on the oppressed Spirit of distressed King Saul: which is another sign that this Scene was acted bonâ fide, and that there was no couzening in it. As also that is another; that she spoke so magnificently of what appeared to her, that she saw Gods ascending. Could she then possibly adventure to turn out a Country-slouch with a Maund-womans Cloak to act the part of so God-like and divine a Personage as Samuel, who was [non-Latin script], as the woman describes him in Josephus Antiqu. Judaic. lib. 7. c. 15. Unto all which you may add, That the Scripture itself, which was written by Inspiration, says expresly, v. 20. that it was Samuel. And the son of Sirach, ch. 46. that Samuel himself prophesyed after his death, referring to this story of the woman of Endor. But for our new-inspired Seers, or Saints, S. Scot, S. Adie, and if you will S. Webster sworn Advocate of the Witches, who thus madly and boldly, against all sense and reason, against all antiquity, all Interpreters, and against the inspired Scripture itself, will have no Samuel in this Scene, but a cunning confederate Knave, whether the inspired Scripture, or these inblown Buffoons, puffed up with nothing but ignorance, vanity, and stupid infidelity, are to be believed, let any one judge.

We come now to his other Allegation, wherein we shall be brief, we having exceeded the measure of a Postscript already. It was neither Samuel's Soul, says he, joyned with his Body, nor his Soul out of his Body, nor the Devil; and therefore it must be some confed[…]rate Knave suborned by that cunning cheating Quean of Endor. But I briesly answer, it was the Soul of Samuel himself; and that it is the fruitfulness of the great ignorance of J. Webster in the sound Principles of Theosophy and true Divinity, that has enabled him to heap together no less than Ten Arguments to disprove this Assertion, and all little to the purpose: So little indeed, that I think it little to the purpose particularly to answer them, but shall hint onely some few Truths which will rout the whole band of them.

I say therefore, that departed Souls, as other Spirits, have an [non-Latin script] in them, such as Souls have in this life; and have both a faculty and a right to move of themselves, provided there be no express Law against such or such a design to which their motion tends.

Again, That they have a Power of appearing in their own personal shapes to whom there is occasion, as Anne Walker's Soul did to the Miller; and that this being a faculty of theirs either natural or acquirable, the doing so is no miracle. And

Thirdly, That it was the strong piercing desire, and deep distress, and agony of mind in Saul, in his perplexed circumstances, and the great compassion and goodness of Spirit in the holy Soul of Samuel, that was the effectual Magick that drew him to condescend to converse with Saul in the womans house at Endor; as a keen sense of Justice and Revenge made Anne Walker's Soul appear to the Miller with her sive Wounds in her head.

The rigid and harsh severity that Webster sancies Samuel's Ghost would have used against the woman, or sharp reproofs to Saul; As for the latter, it is somewhat expressed in the Text, and Saul had his excuse in readiness, and the good Soul of Samuel was sensible of his perplexed condition. And as for the former, sith the Soul of Samuel might indeed have terrified the poor woman, and so unhinged her, that she had been sit for nothing after it, but not converted her, it is no wonder if he passed her by; Goodness and Forbearance more befitting an holy Angelical Soul, than bluster and fury, such as is fancied by that rude Goblin that actuates the Body and Pen of Webster.

As for departed Souls, that they never have any care or regard to any of their fellow-Souls here upon Earth, is expresly against the known example of that great Soul, and universal Pastor of all good Souls, who appeared to Stephen at his stoning, and to S. Paul before his Conversion, though then in his glorified Body; which is a greater condescension than this of the Soul of Samuel, which was also to a Prince, upon whose shoulders lay the great affairs of the People of Israel: To omit that other notable example of the Angel Raphael so called, (from his office at that time, or from the Angelical Order he was adopted into after his death) but was indeed the Soul of Azaria[…] the son of Ananias the Great, and of Tobit's Brethren, Tobit ch. 5. 12. Nor does that which occurs, Tob. 12. 15. at all clash with what we have said, if rightly understood: for his saying, I am Raphael one of the seven holy Angels which present the prayers of the Saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy One, in the Cabbalistick sence signisies no more than thus, That he was one of the universal society of the holy Angels, (and a Raphael in the Order of the Raphaels) which minister to the Saints, and reinforce the Prayers of good and holy men by joyning thereto their own; and as they are moved by God, minister to their necessities, unprayed to themselves, which would be an abomination to them, but extream prone to second the Petitions of holy sincere souls, and forward to engage in the accomplishing of them, as a truly good man would sooner relieve an indigent creature, overhearing him making his moan to God in Prayer, than if he begged Alms of himself, though he might do that without sin. This Cabbalistical account, I think, is infinitely more probable, than that Raphael told a downright lye to Tobit, in saying he was the son of Ananias when he was not. And be it so, will J. Webster say, what is all this to the purpose, when the Book of Tobit is Apocryphal, and consequently of no Authority? What of no Authority? certainly of infinitely more Authority than Mr. Wagstaf, Mr. Scot, and Mr. Adie, that Mr. Webster so srequently and reverently quoteth.

I but, will he further add, these Apparitions were made to good and holy men, or to elect Vessels; but King Saul was a wretched Reprobate. This is the third liberal badge of honour that this ill-bred Advocate of the Witches has beslowed on a distressed Prince. First, a drowned Puppet, p. 170. then a distracted Bedlam, in the same Page, which I passed by before; and now, a wretched Reprobate: But assuredly Saul was a brave Prince and Commander, as Josephus justly describes him, and Reprobate onely in Type, as Ismael and Esau; which is a mystery, it seems, that J. Webster was not aware of. And therefore no such wonder that the Soul of Samuel had such a kindness for him, as to appear to him in the depth of his distress, to settle his mind, by telling him plainly the upshot of the whole business, that he should lose the Battle, and he and his Sons be slain, that so he might give a specimen of the bravest Valour that ever was atchieved by any Commander, in that he would not suffer his Countrey to be over-run by the Enemy, while he was alive, without resistance; but though he knew certainly he should fail of success, and he and his Sons dye in the fight, yet in so just and honourable a Cause as the defence of his Crown and his Countrey, would give the Enemy battle in the Field, and sacrifice his own Lise for the safety of his People. Out of the knowledge of which noble spirit in Saul, and his resolved valour in this point, […]hose words haply may come from Samuel, To morrow shalt thou and thy sons be with me, (as an auspicious insinuation of their savourable reception into the other world) in [non-Latin script] in thalamo justorum, as Munster has noted out of the Rabbins.

Lastly, as for that weak imputation that this opinion of its being Samuel's soul that appeared, is Popish, that is very Plebeianly and Idiotically spoken, as if every thing that the Popish party are for, were Popish. We divide our zeal against so many things that we fancy Popish, that we scarce reserve a just share of detestation against what is truly so: Such as are that gross, rank, and scandalous impossibility of Transubstantiation, the various modes of fulsome Idolatry and lying Impostures, the Uncertainty of their Loyalty to their lawful Soveraigns by their superstitious adhesion to the spiritual Tyranny of the Pope, and that barbarous and ferine Cruelty against those that are not either such fools as to be perswaded to believe such things as they would obtrude upon men, or are not so false to God and their own Consciences, as knowing better, yet to profess them.

As for that other opinion, that the greater part of the reformed Divines hold, That it was the Devil that appeared in Samuel's shape; and though Grotius also seems to be enclined thereto, alledging that passage of Porphyrius, De Abstinentia Animalium, where he describes one kind of Spirit to be, [non-Latin script]. (which is, I confess, very apposit[…] to this story; nor do doubt but that in many of these Necromantick Apparitions, they are ludicrous Spirits, not the Souls of the deceased that appear) yet I am clear for the appearing of the Soul of Samuel in this story, from the reasons above alledged, and as clear that in other Necromancies it may be the Devil, or such kind of Spirits as Porphyrius above describes, that change themselves into omnifarious forms and shapes, and one while act the parts of Daemons, another while of Angels or Gods, and another while of the Souls of the deceased: And I confess such a spirit as this might personate Samuel here, for any thing Webster has alledged to the contrary. For his Arguments indeed are wonderfully weak and woodden, as may be understood out of what I have hinted concerning the former opinion. But I cannot further particularize now.

For I have made my Postscript much longer than my Letter, before I was aware; and I n[…]d not enlarge to you, who are so well vers[…]d in these things already, and can by the quickness of your parts presently collect the whole m[…]asure of H[…]ules by his Foot, and sufficiently understand by this time it is no rash censure o[…] mine in my Letter, That […]ster's Book is but a weak impertinent piece of work, the very […] thereof being so weak and impcrti[…], and falling so short of the scope h[…] aims it, which was really to prove that there was no such thing as a Witch or Wizzard, that is, not any mention thereof, in Scripture, by any name of one that had more to do with the Devil, or the Devil with him, than with other wicked men; that is to say, of one who in vertue of Covenant either implicit or explicit did strange things by the help of evil Spirits, but that there are many sorts of Deceivers and Impostors, and diverse persons, under a passive delusion of Melancholy and Fancy, which is part of his very Title-page.

Whereby he does plainly insinuate, there is nothing but Couzenage or Melancholy in the whole business of the feats of Witches. But a little to mitigate or smother the grossness of this false Assertion, he adds, And that there is no corporeal League betwixt the Devil and the Witch; and that he does not suck on the Witches body, nor has carnal Copulation with her, nor the Witches are turned into Dogs or Cats, &c. All which things, as you may see in his Book, he understands in the grossest manner imaginable, as if the Imps of Witches had Mouths of slesh to suck them, and Bodies of slesh to lye with them. And at this rate he may understand a corporeal League, as if it were no League or Covenant, unless some Lawyer drew the instrument, and engrossed it in Vellum or thick Parchment, and there were so many Witnesses with the Hand and Seal of the party: nor any Transformation into Dogs or Cats, unless it were real and corporeal, or grosly carnal; which none of his Witchmongers, as he rudely and slovenly calls that learned and serious person Dr. Casaubon and the rest, do believe. Onely it is a disputable case of their bodily Transformation, bctwixt Bodinus and Remigius; of which more in my Scholia. But that without this carnal transmutation a woman might not be accounted a Witch, is so foolish a supposition, that Webster himself certainly must be ashamed of it.

Wherefore if his Book be writ onely to prove there is no such thing as a Witch that covenants in Parchment with the Devil by the advice of a Lawyer, and is really and carnally turned into a Dog, Cat, or Hare, &c. and with carnal lips sucked by the Devil, and is one with whom the Devil lies carnally; the scope thereof is manifestly impertinent, when neither Dr. Casaubon nor any one else holds any such thing. But as for the true and adequate notion of a Witch or Wizzard, such as at first I described, his Arguments all of them are too too weak or impertinent, as to the disproving the existence of such a Witch as this, who betwixt his Deceivers, Impostours, and Melancholists on one hand, and those gross Witches he describes, on the other hand, goes away shere as a Hare in a green balk betwixt two Lands of Corn, none of his Arguments reaching her or getting the sight of her, himself in the mean time standing on one side amongst the Deceivers and Impostours, his Book, as to the main design he drives at, being a mere Cheat and Impostour.

ADVERTISEMENT.

THis Letter of Dr. Moor being left amongst other Papers appertaining to this newintended Edition by Mr. Glanvil, and I perceiving in a Letter of his to the Doctor that he had a mind this Letter should be published together with his Book, it is done accordingly, and prefixed at the beginning thereof, as natural Method requires, the Letter being hortatory to quicken Mr. Glanvil to dispatch his intended new Edition for the undeceiving of the World, and the Postscript containing many things of a general insluence upon the whole Book. But that the Doctor may suffer no prejudice through this publishing of his Letter and Postscript, from the sharpness and satyricalness of them in some places, I shall for the more rightly understanding his meaning in the using that mode of writing upon this occasion, transcribe a passage of a Letter of his to his friend Mr. Glanvil, relating thereto. I pray you send me word whether that Postscript will not meet with all the elusory cavils of that profane Busfoon, upon those places of holy Scripture: his unworthy usage of the Holy Writ, and his derisorious Interpretations of it in the behalf of his beloved Hags, provoked my indignation to such Schemes of deriding and exposing him, as otherwise I should never have condescended to. This is a sufficient Testimony of the Doctor's aversness from such manner of writing. But as Divines tell us, that Anger and Punishment are God's Opus alienum, his strange work, as being more abhorrent from his nature; but yet for the good of the Universe he steps out sometimes into that dispensation: so I think it not misbecoming good men, sometimes to condescend, as the Doctor calls it, to the chastising prophane Drolls and Abusers of holy things, by a just derision and satyrical reprehension for their freakish and impious sauciness, provided it be done sincerely, and sor the publick good.

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